Recent Oil Spike: 'Irrational Exuberance'?
Many banks and investment firms have come out to defend the rise in oil prices, saying that it is based on fundamentals and that prices could rise much further. While they go on saying this and prices move upward, open interest in crude futures contracts has been moving steadily downward since a high of 1.58 million last July to 1.36 million now.
What’s more, in the recent oil spike, open interest actually fell 8% in a week as oil moved up over 2.6%. Could this be a sign of a short squeeze, with small traders who had shorted oil closing their positions as major banks like Goldman Sachs (GS) predict oil will continue higher? Some might even think it was major banks tripping short stops so that they could exit their long positions at better prices.
But aren’t there fundamental reasons for this rise in oil prices? In some ways yes, demand from China and India is increasing, but at a slower pace than oil has gone up. In markets such as the US, gasoline prices have not moved up nearly as much as crude, squeezing refineries margins, and slowing their orders of crude, which shows that demand for gasoline isn’t justifying higher prices.
So could this recent rally be a short squeeze so that banks and funds can exit their long positions while small speculators are filled with “irrational exuberance” over the price of oil? OPEC ministers might think so, they’ve said that the recent spike is caused by speculation rather than by an increase in demand and that their level of supply is more than sufficient. John Hofmeister, president of Shell Oil said that the “proper” range for oil should be somewhere between $35-$90 a barrel.
Meanwhile, those holding the bag of the last big bubble - housing - won’t be too happy to hear that home prices posted their biggest quarterly decline since the government started tracking them 17 years ago. The housing market is suffering from a double whammy of record foreclosures and a huge amount of real estate inventory left over from the boom days.
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- nico
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May 22 01:38 PM- Sophisse
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May 22 01:43 PMBut basic supply/demand theory says otherwise. When demand exceeds supply, prices don't necessarily rise in smooth proportion to demand. Prices are set at the margin, the last willing buyer, which means the price rises until just enough people say "nah, I don't want it at that price."
The real question is, has demand finally exceeded supply? If so then prices can spike in an econ 101 textbook manner, without any irrational exuberance. Nobody knows for sure, but we have 3 years of flat supply + growing demand, plus a price spike consistent with this situation. Why invoke irrationality when there is a simple rational explanation consistent with the facts?
- Paulo
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May 22 01:53 PM- CarlosSlim
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May 22 02:18 PMMaybe it's the irrational exuberance of people cashing them in to fill up their tanks--thus, creating an abnormally high demand for OIL.
- icandoitdon
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May 22 02:28 PMinvestment banks say and do nothing that is contrary to their interests. why would anyone give a damn what they say or think?
- Paulo
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May 22 03:07 PMThere is little or nothing that I have come across that deals with the impact on the American and global economy and markets on the bursting of such a bubble, if it is one.
- fxtrader07
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May 22 03:33 PMthere is a great article here on sa referring to an outstanding presentation before the senate homeland security committee:
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- cdcaddy
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May 22 03:42 PMtapping into it. Face it - the world economy has some real soul searching to do to negate a dwindling natural resource. Add to this the fact that OPEC has no incentive to curtail rising prices until it adverserly
effects buying - right now - there's no incentive for them.
I would like to see how the market would react if we were to discontinue the speculative trading of oil [if it's even possible]
- Graqnt Hudlow
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- Donald E. L. Johnson
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May 22 10:18 PMAt the same time that there seems to be more than enough physical oil around, the government comes out with a report on lower inventories. A new report says supplies are and will be tighter than thought. The FT reports that emerging countries finally are reducing subsidies on gasoline, which will make their consumers more price sensitive and Americans and Europeans are cutting oil consumption enough to make traders take notice.
The short squeeze idea could mean that the market has topped near term.
But an article on Reuters that describes how the nature of the petroleum futures markets have changed in the last couple of years is the most interesting. To me, it suggests that the futures markets may be doing a lousy job of price finding, at least temporarily.
And I think trading Dec '16 futures is crazy.
- DaveinHackensack
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May 22 11:06 PMHe said this to whom, in response to what question? Can you provide any context for this quote? I assume it came from the Senate Judiciary Committee Hearing yesterday, but I'm having a devil of a time finding a transcript of that hearing. Please post a link with the full question and answer if you have it. Thanks.
- andrewh10
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May 22 11:45 PM- user 191485
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May 22 11:56 PM- icandoitdon
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May 23 12:16 AMhere is a link to the prepared testimony of the president of shell oil:
judiciary.senate.gov/p...
following is a link to a news story about his testimony. i believe the $35-$60 oil remark was not part of his prepared testimony but was in a Q&A.
www.mcclatchydc.com/ho...
- DaveinHackensack
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May 23 01:00 AMThanks. I had found his prepared testimony already (which is worth reading), but I hadn't seen any transcript of the Q&A yet. I'd seen the McClatchy story as well. It still makes me wonder what the question and context was. McClatchy's prefacing sentence,
"Most of the oil chiefs acknowledged that when measured through the prism of a pre-2005 world, today's oil prices should be far lower."
Doesn't make much sense to me, which is why I have been trying to find a transcript to see what the actual question was.
- CLH
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May 23 07:36 AMWhat to do? Nothing!! The bubble will soon burst.
- Mr. G
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May 23 09:47 AM- ArtfulDodger
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May 23 09:58 AMGreat article. Prices don't have to follow exactly the route you're showing, but they mostly do.
Certainly, the current oil/energy investing mania reminds me so much of the Y-2-K con and the Dotbomb mania of the late 90s.
At that time you couldn't convince anyone that the date on a computer had nothing to do with controlling grids at power plants. After Greenspan went before Congress and followed along with this nonsense, people would actually fight you if you told them it was foolish to spend money preparing for an event that wasn't going to happen.
The Dotbomb mania speculating was going on at the same time. When you told people that the majority of these companies had no real income, no cash on hand, and no business plan, they gave you a blank stare and went out and paid $150 a share for AOL.
I would ask them, because there was no Google at the time, How are these companies going to get people to go to their web sites? They had no clue and no answer.
Just as with their preparation for the Y-2-K con, there was no stopping them. The Monday after the first day of 2000 passed and not one negative event happened anywhere in the world, CNN reported that over $700 billion had been spent for nothing.
At the time I believed as I do now that we're living in the "Age of Technology," and have been since Charles Babbage invented the first computer. I had been heavily invested in tech, but when the propaganda got heavier and heavier as the big houses sent their touts out touting stocks selling at never-before-seen ratios and Jim Cramer said "to buy, buy, buy, and keep buying," I sold everything on March 6, 2000, and have my tickets to prove it.
Today, I believe we're in a long-term bull market for hard commodities that may last another 12-18 years, but along the way there will be both short and long-term downturns.
Those will come right after big run ups, just as we've had most recently. Markets are inherently irrational, and what's going on right now in the energy sector is definitely irrational.
Now clearly, markets can remain irrational much longer than reasoning people can imagine, but the longer they run up the harder and faster they fall down; and the more people get hurt by the crash.
The same thing is going to happen in this current oil-buying boom. I think it will happen fairly soon—perhaps over the next thirty days.
And as the great Joseph Schumpeter taught us, "The bigger the boom, the bigger the bust."
Those of you who're irreversible oil bulls should at least get ready to bail out as soon as prices start to turn. But I really doubt if many will, for the past tends to repeat itself when it comes to manias such as this one.
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May 23 01:13 PM- User 987
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May 23 01:35 PMThis is not a bubble like others - oil is a finite, non-renewing resource.
I see the price doubling every year or two.
- vaduz
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May 23 03:16 PM- icandoitdon
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May 23 10:04 PM"Most of the oil chiefs acknowledged that when measured through the prism of a pre-2005 world, today's oil prices should be far lower."
this was confusing to me too...it suggests to me that he's as confused as anyone why we've seen the magnitude of the current price surge.