Unintended Consequences - Fast Money Recap (10/6/08)
Recap of CNBC's Fast Money, Monday October 6.
One of the Biggest S&P Drops
Dylan Ratigan started the discussion of the intraday trading action for the S&P 500 which saw one of the biggest one-day drops ever in market history. The market traded up off the lows on speculation that all central banks will act together to stop the global meltdown. Ratigan mentioned breaking news that the Federal Reserve will now potentially look at getting into unsecured lending in the commercial paper market. He said the commercial paper market has dropped $95 billion in the last few weeks. Steve Liesman came to discuss the breaking news. He said the Fed has talked to market participants to take additional measures to support the unsecured commercial paper market. He says the new measures will most likely involve the Treasury and Fed in some combination. "It's unclear if these measures will involve direct purchases, outright lending or access to the window," he added. Liesman says the Fed has never ventured into this business until now. Karen Finerman says the Fed is stepping in to try and restore normalcy to the credit markets. "Anyone who has short-term paper is getting fearful that commercial paper markets might be closed to them," she said. Jeff Macke says this isn't a sign of confidence and it's not a solution to the problem. "This is another incremental action, and we aren't doing these things smart," he added.
Today’s Trades - National City (NCC), Wachovia (WB) Regions Financial (RF), Burlington Northern Santa Fe (BNI), MasterCard (MA), McDonald's (MCD), U.S. Bancorp (USB), Wells Fargo (WFC), JPMorgan Chase (JPM), Citigroup (C), Bank of America (BAC)
Ratigan asked how traders traded in today's dangerous stock market. Pete Najarian said he is holding on to the regional banks because they will have the "opportunity" going forward. He says the big banks will gobble up names like National City, Wachovia and Regions Financial. "I would still buy these names through options or with buying the stocks outright," he added. Guy Adami says there is value in names like Burlington Northern Santa Fe and MasterCard. He pointed out that both stocks traded up today. “Don't race into these things, but maybe there is some value here," he said. Macke told viewers he bought Burlington Northern and McDonald's today. Najarian said to look at U.S. Bancorp, Wells Fargo, JPMorgan Chase and Citigroup which all had bullish reversals on the day. "In the long run they all tend to win," he said. Ratigan mentioned that Bank of America traded down in after-hours trading after the bank missed on earnings and cut its dividend. "If your financials are so bad that you have to cut your dividend in the next 36 hours, than you probably shouldn't be making massive acquisitions even at reduced prices," Macke said. Finerman says it's good that Bank of America cut their dividend because that capital can be used elsewhere.
Uncertain Times - IBM (IBM), Apple (AAPL), Cisco Systems (CSCO)
Bill Fleckenstein of Fleckenstein Capital discussed the credit and housing crisis. He said it's difficult to have a strong opinion about where we might be heading, given that there are so many moving parts that the government is throwing at the markets. "The economy was never as strong in the last up-cycle as everyone had thought because it was fueled by taking money out of your house and real estate oriented jobs," he said. He doesn't know how this plays out because the Fed's balance sheet can't be unlimited. "I don't know what the law of unintended consequences has in store, but I am sure it's something," he added. Fleckenstein said he has cut his short positions back dramatically and has a lot of cash on hand. "I guarantee you the government will create another epic problem with what they're doing," he said. He told viewers he's still short IBM because all of its customers are in trouble. He also said he isn't short Apple or Cisco Systems, but he wouldn't risk his money on the long side with the stocks either.
Icahn Fights Back
Legendary investor Carl Icahn joined the traders to discuss the crazy action in the stock market today. Ichan said we have some major problems with the banks. "I don't think we will see a loosening up of loans for a long time," he said. Icahn says the real problem is the way we hold our managements accountable in this country. In a nutshell, Icahn doesn’t feel corporate management is properly held accountable for their actions. And going forward, he’s determined to see that they are. "It's like asking the proverbial fox to guard the henhouse," he said. Ichan said he is starting a cause called the United Shareholders of America to fight in Washington to change the rules on how corporate management in America operates. And in case you’re wondering, the billionaire investor doesn’t think the crisis will improve anytime soon. “I think we have some real problems,” he says.
Technical Talk With Worth Carter
Worth joined the traders to discuss the technical outlook for the stock market. Worth said be careful what you wish for in this market. He says we blew through the 2003 lows, and now the market is trading at what should be some decent support. "We're making the case here that we're in the capitulation phase, and after that we will get apathy," he said.
Final Trade – Your First Move for Tuesday October 7.
Jeff Macke suggested Mc Donald’s (MCD).
Karen Finerman said to buy Diageo (DEO)
Guy Adami likes Jeffries (JEF).
Pete Najarian thinks Biogen (BIIB) is a buy.
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Oct 07 09:08 AMThis morning on Bloomberg I listened to a few minutes of analysis on why BofA needed to raise capital. Not one of them mentioned the $8.4 Billion predatory lending settlement they just entered into to get out of the Countrywide lawsuits. They haven't impressed me much either lately.
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